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Pukul Cikgu, Belasah Cikgu, Salahkah?

Originally from Negaraku.net, tipped by Menteil, from Utusan.

KANGAR 16 Okt. – Dua orang pelajar perempuan Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan (SMK) Perlis di sini didakwa menendang dan memukul seorang guru Fizik berusia 27 tahun setelah dipercayai tidak puas hati dengan tugasan kerja kursus yang diberikan kepada mereka.

Who’s the real bitch, teacher or student? First hand, you might think the student is wrong but when you think thoroughly it could be the teacher’s fault after repeatedly swinging that stack of paper in her face. Watch the video.

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I believe the teacher inflicted racks of pain (mentally and physically) onto the student throughout the year. And just like a timed bomb, she exploded, bursting into flame eating anything in sight. That being said, her way of handling is rather infantile. (Hey, she is in her teeny years).

The paper said, the FORM 2 student shoved and kicked the PHYSICS teacher. They teach Physics in Form 2 now? That’s new.

Which reminds me when I was in Form 4, I was slapped in the middle of the class for having a long hair. The injury left my ear ringing the entire week. Long hair, slap? The punishment is rather stupid don’t you think?

What if someone who does more than 600 push ups everyday (like myself) were to punch him in the face as an act of self defense? I’m sure I could’ve repositioned his crooked nose and maybe have him flying across the room. That would’ve been an awesome John Woo scene.

I secretly wanted to flip his car too, but his wife (who teaches History) is too kind to us. Hurt the husband, the wife gets sad. So I let him off the hook.

The very least I could do is take it like a man, although it’s against my wicked nature, which is to revenge.

ps: I wrote about poverty in response to BlogActionDay, but it gives me this hollow feeling as if I can’t really do anything about it. So I saved it my draft.

pss: We’re planning for a Negaraku! Gathering at an orphanage. Will tell you about it later.

psss: It felt good having people to acknowledge my writing 😮

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124 replies on “Pukul Cikgu, Belasah Cikgu, Salahkah?”

It sivik not fizik.Lol media.Btw,both of them are wrong.One are rude and one can not manage her anger. Semua cikgu mesti ambil khusus psikologi dan dia mestilah faham macam mana nak menpratikan ia di dalam tugasan mengajar. Saya rasa cikgu tu masih kurang pengalaman di dalam mengawal murid2 bermasalah. Mana tahu mungkin budak tu ada masalah emosi . Well,many teachers does not try to understand their own students. Most of this problematic student mesti kena kaunseling agar kita tahu apakah permasalah yang mereka hadapi. Lagipun budak tu masih mentah lagi.

aku sangat sokong kenyataan 1-4 ko tu..
aku pon naik muak dengan budak2 upsi yang ada perangai macam nie..
kadang2 aku terfikir “nie ke cikgu yang ajar anak aku nanti? aku ajar sendiri je la kalau macam nie”
ini berdasarkan pemerhatian aku sendiri..
sebab kampung aku dekat dengan bandar koboi tanjung malim tu.. selalu la aku turun sana..
lagi pon aku pernah lama berkerja di situ..

p/s: maaf.. aku tak katakan semua student upsi.. segelintir.. aku pon tak nak salahkan cikgu sepenuhnya.. memukul tetap salah tanpa sebab musabab..

dude… u’d received a lot of comments for this post. intelectual opint of views conquered the most. objective accomplished :up:

bagi aku, benda plg penting adalah jujur & ikhlas

1. cikgu- kalau diorg jujur, bende camni tak akan jadi. setiap manusia punya penerimaan & perangai berlainan.

2. student-kalau diorang betul2 jujur & ikhlas pergi ke sekolah, benda cmni pn tak akan jadi. nak dapat ilmu (berharga) dari orang lain bukan benda senang.

What I really want is people to talk Intellectually, even if it means me being on the other side of the fence. Orang rase je aku jahat,.. hahaha bagus. Girls like bad boys but will never marry one 😀 😀

kalau nak tanda apa2 paper skalipun, msti ada guideline..sama la mcm krangan. aku bkn cegu bm, tp yg aku tau, setiap tajuk karangan ada skema jwpn(dlm btk point). creativity is a bonus. its all depends on teacher la.. n karangan is a subjective paper, so the grade shud b subjective oso.. erm..i hope u get my point here..

i’m soo good in biology, but why i ended up being a teacher?? not a scientist or doctor..etc??? u better think again..

x paham la aku. .. psl hntr register book p ofis pon jd isu?come on la people… aku rs aku la manusia plg syok kalo boleh jln2 mkn angin p ofis..(tp xpenah berkesempatan sbb skola aku spesial skit) :p

n….this is not about teachers being bossy around, but to train the kids to be responsible…if u dun wan to do, just tell the truth la…ape ssh??? or just asks ur fren to do it, ok?

btw, student aku siap tggu aku kemas brg after clz n help me to bring all the stuff without i’m the one who asking… so, after all…i think its all about 2 way communication… how the teacher treats the student and vice versa… adios…

1) because you want to make a difference
2) because you want to build the nation
3) because it’s your passion
4) because you love kids
5) because you want to be remembered..

I can give you a million reasons.

I’m so good at physics and add maths, but why did I end up being a Web Developer?

I can give you another million reasons.

Your point noted.

I would find it offensive if a teacher waves a paper over my face and keeps pointing-pointing but as a student, I think we should respect our elders. Nowadays the younger ppl (cewah, as if I’m so old) are quite kurang ajar. Not only to teachers, but even to their parents. In this case perhaps both are in the wrong, to a certain extent.

Regardless, there are SOME teachers who abuse their power – torture for no reason (I’m sure almost everyone has an experience of the-teacher-from-hell) or worst, molest – but I think these are the small handful bad apples in the bunch.

Now that I’ve finished studying, I don’t really recall the bad teachers. I do however remember and appreciate the good ones, the teachers who stayed after school to give extra tips, the teachers who patiently explained when we didn’t understand, the teachers who helped us succeed. 🙂

Just my 2 cents

Look here:

http://www.bharian.com.my/Current_News/BH/Tuesday/Nasional/20081021005340/Article/index_html

Same school. Bad students’ attitude. So, what do you think. Still blaming the teacher. IMHO, I think that the tolerance of the teacher in that school had reached its threshold value, and thus resulting in the action taken.

Do you really think that you could stand this kind of students?

In fact, our religion taught us that we should respect our teacher in any circumstances. Don’t be ‘Seperti kacang lupakan kulit’.

I think we should stop blaming the teachers/schools, and start to educate our child properly.

As a matter of fact, if I’m not mistaken, according to our prophet (SAW), we should ‘rotan’ our children, if by 10, they refuse to perform solat.

ps: To the parents, please stop blaming someone else regarding you kids. Together we correct this problem. Thus, avoiding the destruction of our country.

sampah sial budak2 tu….
elok masuk skolah jahat je dorang ni..
nak kurang ajar pun takyah la sampai tangan naik…
cabar maruah orang tu

Once in Form 2 (afternoon session), I got the rotan because…lewat 5 MINIT balik dari masjid untuk Solat Asar. And it wasn’t just me, it was like almost 50 other girls. I was like, wth ?! The school allocates only 15 minutes for recess AND solat Asar, where we have to walk to the Masjid (which is quite a distance), queue for wudhu’, pakai telekung, lipat telekung, pakai tudung (not even pakai2 bedak pun!), plus solat jemaah lagi! .. and still got the rotan?

Plus, the cikgu was a Muslim. The rotan bruise on my leg stayed for a week.

Budak2 akhir zaman……
dalam alquran gak ada mengatakan tanda2 kiamat dimana anak menjadi tuan kepada ibunya.. budak2 kuarang ajar ngan orang tua…. x ade kesabaran iman x ade… dulu kena terjang ngan cikgu rilex je tapi anak2 zaman sekarang macam sial…x leh di tegur x leh di usik… paling teruk kalo ade mak bapak protect anak die yg bersalah tu… hipokrit taik hanjing la wei…sedar2 la wei… biar ape pun terjadi hormat la yang tua sayangi la yg muda….experience..kalau dah x ada jati diri dan dedikasi serta toleransi tu yg cket panggil mak bapak.. gune lawyer… bull shit… haprak punye manusia x taw nak bertoleransi.

pelajar tu mmg krg ajar. nama pun cikgu tegur pun psl x siap keje sklh apa yg silapnya ckgu tu? mmg pljr tu yg krg ajar dahlah x siap keje sklh nak belasah cikgu lg. mmg pljr tu x brmoral.

u got probs with teachers huh? bkn sume cikgu mcm tu beb. let see, kalau ko la jdi cikgu tu, then ade student anta keje tulis GILA BABI kt blakang tu, ko nk buat ape? mst ar pggil kn..at least tnye la ape problem. i’m not trying to support any side, just nk bgtau jgn tuduh skati. cikgu tu mybe ade prob sendiri, teenagers pun sme gak. kite xkn tau mslah org lain. so watch ur words.

dapat guru agak emo, yg mempunyai masalah dalaman, keluarga yg akn bercerai, telah dtampar berdarah bibir bila tidak dpt soalan etc.. ketakutan itu membuatkan aku cemerlang. ya Allah ya tuhan ku panjangkan umur guru2 ku itu tambahkan rezeki,dan berikan petunjuk, yg mana tidak elok dijauhkan, amin..

bila berdendam, dosa akn turut tercatat bukan?

kite tak tahu ape budak tu cakap kat cikgu tu.. mungkin pekataan2 yang bakal terok.. so aku rase bukan salah cikgu tu.. lagipun budak tu baru form 2 dah pandai kurang ajar dah.. panggil geng pulak tu nak belasah cikgu tu.. ish3 budak2 zaman sekarang..

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bebudak skrg memang payah nk respek kat cikgu.
cikgu pun pyh nk sayang kat bebudak.

konsepnye: bile cikgu wat baik sikit, bebudak mule naik atas kepala.

dulu penah gak jd cikgu add math: cikgu kepada member.
istilah dye: guru muda.

yg best, sume hormat. tengking bleh, kutuk bleh, hempuk kepale pun bleh. wakaka pdhal member sekelas je.

maybe bcoz i’m in SMKA kot. huhu

dua2 pon salah rasenye.

when i watched that video for the first time, i was like ‘what are u trying to say?it’s so obvious that that teacher being rude to that student first! ‘ itu ape yg saye nampak la.

but to gather form 4 and form 5 seniors to take revenge on that teacher,it’s just way too much.itu kurang ajar tu.

i’m thinking to myself on that time,that as a teacher, no matter how rude the students are, it doesn’t give you the right to be rude to the students back. tu macam menambahkan petrol kat api yg tengah marak tuh.huhu. i always believe that a teacher should not only teach the students, but also to educate them to be a good person. at least jadi ‘orang’ la.

tapi bile saye tahu kes ni jadi kat skolah menengah perlis, hmm pikir dua kali jugak la saye. that school, sorry but i have to say, it is seriously an extremely problematic school. memang x heran la kuar kes ni (actually i think there are even worst cases than this happened at that school, cume x kuar tv je). i knew it, because i grew up in perlis for 18 years.orang perlis la ni haha.my friend’s mom is a teacher at that school, and Tuhan saje yg tau macam mana susahnye nak mengajar kt skola tu. if i’m not mistaken, that teacher just being transferred to that school recently. mayb die x biasa lagi dgn prangai budak2 tu kot.culture shock gamaknye hehe. cikgu2 yg dah lama mengajar kt situ,like my friend’s mom tu,mmg dah hadam sgt dah perangai diorg. huhu.

arap2 cikgu2 zaman skarang tulus and telus sket dlm mengajar budak2. and budak2 pon jangan pijak kepala cikgu. kurang ajar x bertempat. huhu.

kenapa salahkan cikgu ya?
at the end of the day..sbg org lebih muda..pelajar x da hak (atau bahasa timur nye..x hormat) utk menendang guru.

mmg cikgu jugak xda hak secara rasminya utk memukul budak2…tp kalo kte tgk..bknnye cikgu tu rejam dia pn.

ok, lepas ni semua mak bapak ajar la anak2 tulis gila babi! dkt buku sekolah..ataupun puk!*** dkt frontpage..

apalaaah.ini semua salah student & mak bapak!! bukan salah cikgu..

&& kepada tuan owner website…seseorang cikgu biasanye x ajar satu subjek.awak sekolah mana yea dulu yang xda cikgu yg ajar byk subjek??

dkt universiti pn sama..seorg lecturer x semstinye ajar satu subjek..

skian.
skadar pendapat

moral of the story: pelajar bersalah. kurang ajar.mak bapak pn slh, mesti x pernah tau anak dia buat apa kt rumah

may I copycat?

“NH is my wicked mind and my alter ego. I shall be refrained from being corrected no matter what the circumstances is”

just give opinion on the issue. the post itself is absolute once it published no matter what you say.

WTF?

Did you read the whole thing THOROUGHLY OR NOT? If you don’t understand then I STRONGLY suggest you do not leave any comment that’ll make you look like you’re not.

u ask me politely to read ur post again, but let me make it clear…ur post first of all is more towards “both parties are wrong, yea the student is wrong…but afterall, the teacher is to blame”

that’s the first thing that u need to edit.
don’t ask people to read ur thoughts if ur thoughts brings false pretense to others.

in my dictionary, THERE IS NO WAY teacher is wrong.
it’s like u’re an owner of a restaurant & the customers always right although it’s their fault.

IMO, ur memory (u was bitch-slapped by a teacher because of long hair) is still ‘haunting’ u.
ofcourse it’s not fair & u don’t deserve to get it…but at the end of the day..the teacher ask u to be discipline just like others.

then, i suggest you to write something about “why my parents don’t agree with me although they’re wrong”. all of us had overcome that situation of course..sometimes our parents are wrong but they didnt allow us to counter back their words for ANY REASONS! because of what? they want to teach us to respect the olders.

i hope that u won’t ignore this situation when u have kids. & one more thing, don’t spoil ur kids later on.

*mcmnila, kalo ikut hukum hudud (di arab & i believe u pergi saudi arabia pn aware about these things) mencuri, cth curi duit rm5000. boleh thn byk..kalau kena tangkap, mmg kena potong tangan. kes ini boleh dikatakan agak sukar utk berulang pada masa hadapan.

saya nak tanya awak, kat malaysia kenapa orang takut nk apply benda ni? sbb orang kita berfikiran takut kena denda walhal benda tu lah yg membetulkan keadaan. x percaya? budak2 skg, duit surau masjid pn dia curi!!
kalo hukuman mcmtu dikenakan..takut tak budak2 nk mencuri??

*i assume WTF is what the fuss.

thanks.

“Both party wrong, but teacher to be blame..” If you were caught in a brotherly fight and you happen to be the elder brother, whom do we usually point our fingers to? Exactly, the elder bro, the one with bigger brains. Get my drift?

“don’t ask people to read ur thoughts if ur thoughts brings false pretense to others…” similarly, don’t talk lowly about others if you do not know them at all, worst, do not even try to comprehend.

Teacher is wrong when she says, 1+1=7. Edit your diary, please.

So, if the client is always right, what does education means? Student is the client, since they’re the one paying and teacher is the owner, since they’re getting paid.

Me haunted by that slap? It was just an example how injustice it could be. I live with no fear, except in light of God.

My parents never agree with me, but we find common grounds. This way we wouldn’t hurt one another. We do not counter words, we take turn.

I will only cane my kids if they don’t pray. For anything else, there’s always SOFT SKILLS (google it).

Hukum hudud is bound by a lot of things. Even if you steal because you’re desperate, you could be released without trial. Also you’d need witness, else it’ll be my words against yours.

In case you don’t know, I’m all in for Islamic law.

WTF means what it means.

“If you were caught in a brotherly fight and you happen to be the elder brother,”
to compare teacher with brother’s situation is a poor comparison. :down:
plus, sejak bila perkataan GILA BABI adalah perkataan yg bukan kurang ajar?first point pun student dah salah.
kalau aku jadi cikgu aku mmg dah lempang budak ni.
KESALAHAN: perkataan GILA BABI bukan perkataan yg elok. (of course i will consult & ask him/ her first) mmg x sesuai hukumannya, tp kalau nk sesuai2 kan..nk denda apa? tulis “saya budak baik, maafkan saya cikgu” 500x? then expect budak tu will respect the teacher?
baguslaaaaa
HELLO, these students are not darjah satu or dua. mereka form 2 & they shud know it’s every offensive words to the teachers.

& in ur case, student rambut panjang..yea it’s a school rule since u’re standard 1 & u ignore it!. so to say it is injustice (kena lempang), i think it’s a disgrace to our standard schools’ rules & regulation. kementerian dah state benda ni dari awal2 lagi..awat hang nk buat jugak.x faham bahasa kaaa?hang buat salah hang bak blame orang. & if u’re saying “I’m all in for Islamic law”, i think u’re not ready for it..because hukum hudud adalah bertujuan utk ‘mengingatkan’ daripada ‘buat baru denda’

” Hukum hudud is bound by a lot of things. Even if you steal because you’re desperate, you could be released without trial ”

niat tak menghalal kan hukum.
if someone is desperate, Allah teach us to ask help from others, not steal. but i don’t say that pencuri tu still akan kena potong tgn.

“So, if the client is always right, what does education means? Student is the client, since they’re the one paying and teacher is the owner, since they’re getting paid.”
dude, if u want talk about education as a business than go to private school. THESE KIDS DON’T PAY FOR THE TEACHERS!!! it’s us, the rakyat & mak bapak dierang yg bayar gaji cikgu ni lah kawan. so, student IS NOT the teacher’s client & dont ever think ur teacher as the owner because without them u’re nothing. if u’re assuming teacher as an owner (which u just assume that) let me remind u, teaching profession is the one of the most honored profession by Allah. All the knowledge, thoughts & etc that u gain from ur teacher is priceless. Sampaikan segala ajaran oleh guru tu & sekiranya seseorang itu menggunakan ilmu itu kembali..maka Allah akan memberi ganjaran kepada guru tersebut. MasyaAllah sayang nya Allah kepada guru2 kita.
& di sini, awak still blame the teachers. i just don’t get it.

“I will only cane my kids if they don’t pray. For anything else, there’s always SOFT SKILLS (google it).”
i bet u’re a geek. then if ur kids steal, if ur kids insult u, if ur kids hurt others & etc… u will only do the so-called ‘soft skills’. yea i believe in soft skills..but that doesnot means everything in soft skills is right. pukul adalah cara terbaik but that depends on situation.
sometimes, ajaran orang2 tua melayu kita adalah betul walaupun ada yang mengarut.
percayalah, memukul (bukan mendera) adalah cara terbaik utk mengajar anak2 awak.

next time google lah dulu kawan, : http://syededlee.tripod.com/keunggulanislam/id141.html

apsal student tu nk tepis tgn cikgu yg tunjuk ke arah die tu? dh cukup besar? dh cukup bagus? Dh cukup pandai?

u can swear me with any F words that u want because u WILL NEVER KNOW how hard it’s to be a teacher. u may downgrade this profession as u want, but for me..having a mom who works as a teacher..i know the difference. kalau awak kerja office 8-5 & kalau overtime awak minta bayaran lebih… cikgu? kerja 7-1..tu belum kira extra classes. lepastu dgn kokurikulum petang. balik rumah tanda buku students smp malam…tido terus bangun esok pagi & doing the same thing..
belum tolak nak kena layan kerenah family, suami & etc.

Dude, from the very beginning, I do not have any ill intention towards this noble profession much to degrade you. And also it’s not even about me being right or wrong. I want to DISCUSS for the sake of morality, not to bomb each other.

My long hair story? I was in boarding school, my hair slightly passed the school standard, by a cm at most. Tell me where can I find a good barber if I cant go out as pleased? Anyway, that’s just a sideline story, let’s not relate to this any further.

Islamic? From the very beginning, I did not relate this topic to religion because I do not want to ground this topic for Malays or Muslim only. I hope you understand.

The WTF on your blog, ok my bad. I use that word so often that I miss took you for someone who’s comfortable to use with. I’m sorry for that.

Yes, I’m a geek and I’m very proud of it. If possible la bro, please exclude any sentiment that includes me, our religion and God. If we’re in a debate, your points kene tolak…

tak payah la sampai nak pukul2 mana tak bengang budak2. dah la diorang teenagers.

teenage angst tu.

it looks like the student really hate that teacher. poor teacher.

Still, I don’t think the teacher should slap their face, and pointing her finger towards them. if the teacher is really mad, she should just let them stand outside during the whole class, finishing the homework, or send them to the principle or something. Isn’t that a better way? Atleast, the students won’t take it personally. I hope.

erk, rambut panjang sampai kena slap? so far, yg sy jumpa – paling koman pun cikgu marah2 or gunting rambut sesuka ati. klw sampai kena slap tu, i guess it’s too much. lainlah klw kes belasah student lain, baru sesuai klw cikgu nak slap2 pun.

stuju sgt bro ape yg ko rasa tu… aku dulu time skolah rasa camtu gak kat cikgu aku.. tp ape nak buat. simpan je ar..

mengenai kes tendang guru ni, dapat dirasakan yang cikgu dia tu yg hampeh… ngk orangnye pon dah tahu…

fizik form 2? hahahaha..

skolah tu mmg hampeh… tanye camne student leh bawak henpon gi skolah… kan dah dapat rekod video..

In malaysia .. there is too much hillarious action can happen .

When I saw the news .. the first funny thing that is come to my mind when they all trying to solve the problems ..

Student yang bawak phone tu salah .. yang terajang cikgu dan cikgu tuh x salah .. huhu

well . my mom is a discipline teacher .. dan aku dah hampir cair telinga mendengar kerenah budak – budak yang kurang ajar di sekolah lama aku ..

anyway .. pengajaran yang aku dapat .. sekali kau terajang cikgu … selagi kau x mintak maaf .. sampai mati hidup kau x akan diberkati ..

I kept on reading this post for one simple, single reason…to be in the know of who the heaven yg lempang sama lu? oo samcit rpnye…igt latex or fairuz leman

better way and how to cope benda ni ada la dengan cara give and take. Tolak ansur dan semangat hormat menghormati perlu ada.

Tapi akhir-akhir ini, keterlanjuran sikap kontra kian berkudis dan semakin bernanah.

Di mana silapnya? Bila ditanya, sering kali kita menuding jari kepada parents, cikgu, mahupun murid itu sendiri. Sedangkan banyak faktor atau pengaruh daripada persekitaran seseorang individu tersebut.

Dan jika ditanya, kita hanya sekadar sinis menjawab, “Dunia dah maju, zaman dah berubah…” ahaks

kita di ajar untuk menghormati guru, orang yang lebih tua, ibu bapa, orang berilmu, pemimpin dll

aku dulu kena belasah jugak dengan cikgu disiplin,kena lempang pasal rambut , menda2 remeh je pun.sampai senior aku buat report polis sbb ada yang cedera teruk.

pada aku tindakan budak pompuan tu biadab, cikgu tu baru marah sket dia dah melawan macam tu sekali.bro, aku rasa ko patut jadi cikgu disiplin kat sekolah dulu baru ko tahu perangai budak2 sekolah skrg 🙂

salam noktah hitam..
for those who are the products of SBP apparently , they will know and still remember the age where they were beaten harshly by the wardens , teachers and HEM…
Gila2 punye bantai , i have no idea with them , they can treat pelajar nicely la.
So…you got one slap during your zaman sekola…my friends got double…
~what happened to them? jadi manusia gak…

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