I’m no bumi. But I have no yearning desire to step foot into UiTM. Do I look like I need an inferior education??

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la ni ke pasal aku nampak berita ada perarakan kat uitm tadi. hehe

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huhuhu.. penat dah aku dengar colleague aku cakap pasal hal ni semua… tapi walau apa pun, aku kagum ngan iklan di tengah2 post ni tadi… “suami pancut awal… isteri jimak” ke entah apa-apalah … hahaha… google adsense semakin lucah.. cis!

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Firstly I applaud you for the courage to speak up. Seriously, not everyone has the courage to talk about it openly on their blogs. I have nothing against Malays, because I understand that it’s only the upper rung of the society that really benefits tremendously (repeat: tremendously, as in, having a dozen of BMWs that kind). Malays at the lower rung of the economic and society ladder did not get an equitable share of the pie.

The main reason why students of other ethnic groups are reluctant to enter UiTM is the fear of being marginalised the prospects of being marginalised by a huge ethnic group is daunting, and considering that inter-racial relationships aren’t all so sunny and picturesque nowadays further adds to their worries.

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betul..biar melayu bukak sikit mata..
idup nk senang but tak mo kerja keras..
sooo melayuuuu..

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waaah… but, I really want to see amoi with baju kurung. surely nice! hik hik.

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actually aku tak faham sangat apa agenda diorang nih..dalam berpuluh2 ipta, ipts kat msia ni, kenapa uitm yg dijadikan target…

kenapa tak cakap general je ipta kat msia ni kan byk
bukak je sume 100% utk sume kaum plus foreigners sekali..ikut result je lah..kenapa uitm jugak yg nak disebut..

kalau nak cakap pasal kualiti…bukannya takde yg berkualiti dari uitm tu..mcm salleh sulung, hamad kama piah sume ex uitm..

last2 aku masih tak paham apa agenda diorang nih…haha

kalau dah politician tu politician jugakla kan

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some people very angry
some people agree

well, it’s not about politic. it’s about future

p/s : i’m not going to any side

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Sukar nak bagi pendapat, sebab Khalid Ibrahim pun bukan calang2 orang. Dia tahu apa yang dia buat. Kita yang tak tahu ni tak sepatutnya nak bangkang bermati-matian tanpa usul periksa.

Aku pun tekezut besar gak tengok berita ni 2 hari lepas kat TV. Tapi bila aku perhatikan, cadangan itu dibuat oleh “orang sebelah sana”, sebab tu mendapat liputan hangat yang buruk lagi memburukkan.

Cuba kalau “orang2 dia” yang buat cadangan tu, mesti diorang menggembar gemburkan kebaikan semata2…

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NH. aku ni dari UiTM.
Bukan semua orang takde kualiti.
Itu aje aku nak cakap.
Terima kasih.

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hehehe. ok. bravely said. I don’t want to take side but i really do want (i mean i really really do) to see beautiful hot chinese chick on kebaya rather than baju kurung. hu hu hu . Well i’m no longer a student but once were, but if it did happen in my era i would probably with them. ha ha ha

p/s : i am no desperate no am i a pervert.

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hi.i’m all for the suggestion. i think there’s an urgent need for uitm to be diverse. the students need to compete with other races (healthy competition). They’ve been in a comfort zone for a long time. too much pampered and too much spoon fed. 10% is no big deal. if you think you’re good and capable enough…why worries?work hard and prove that you’re as good as them.in fact i dont think the non-bumis would be interested to enroll themselves in uitm.

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So many universities in Malaysia, why choose UITM? because IUITM is the only one yet to open its door. Worry not, with 10% quota, I doubt the response from the non-Bumi will be encouraging, further more many of them perceive standard of education in UITM is lower than the rest.

I see many trying to defend UITM saying not all UITM graduates are without quality, yes that is true, nobody is denying there are good apples among the bad ones, no argument for that and I will defend my Alma Mater - UTM anytime if anyone trying to bash my university down.

I am certain that there are exceptional UiTM students out there who have achieved great success with the careers. I’m also not disputing the fact that UiTM is providing greater opportunities for many bumiputera students to obtain their degrees. UiTM makes access to tertiary education, which may otherwise have not been possible, easily available for some of them.

But, why people have this perception that majority of UITM graduates are not competitive enough among other universities? Reason, it was reported many times, graduates from local universities has the highest number of unemployment with UITM top the list consistently.

In 2006, it was reported some 70% (I personally think this figure is ridiculous, with 70% unemployment, better get away with higher learning institutions) of the public universities graduates are unemployed, with UITM contributing the highest number. I quote:

70% of grads from public institutions jobless
B.Suresh Ram

KUALA LUMPUR: Some 70% of public universities and institutes of higher learning graduates in the country are unemployed.

This is in contrast with 26% for private institutions of higher learning and 34% for foreign graduates.

Deputy Human Resources Minister Datuk Abdul Rahman Bakar revealed the figures today (July 3, 2006) in reply to a question from Opposition Leader Lim Kit Siang (DAP-Ipoh Timor).

He said the ministry had taken several steps, including the establishment of the graduates’ retraining training scheme as well as providing feedback to the Higher Education and the Education Ministries, to ensure courses are in line with those required by the job market.

To the original question by Tan Sri Dr Ting Chew Peh (BN-Gopeng), Abdul Rahman said 20,217 graduates registered with the ministry’s Job Clearing System were still unemployed as at June 12.

The breakdown showed UiTM as having the highest number of unemployed graduates with 3,278 (16.2%) followed by UUM 1,532 (7.6%), private institutions of higher learning 1,217 (6%), UTM 1,147(5.7%), UKM 971 (4.8%), UPM 919 (4.5%), other public institutions of higher learning 840 (4.2%), UM 531 (2.6%), USM 505 (2.5%), UMS 371 (1.8%), UIA 358 (1.8%), foreign graduates 342 (1.7%), Unimas 174 (0.9%), UPSI 39 (0.2%) and others 7,993 (39.5%).

(From The Sun : http://sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=14660)

It is most interesting to note that Universiti Teknologi Mara (UiTM) contributes by far the most number of unemployed graduates amongst all the universities in Malaysia. The number of unemployed produced (3,278) is more than double the next highest university, Universiti Utara Malaysia (UUM) (1,532).

I agree totally for the 10% suggestion, for students can fall in love with non-Bumis and non-Malaysians and creating a new beautiful breed of Malaysians. HAHA!

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Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim should mentions about those beautiful amoi in kebaya/baju kurung in his statement about UiTM for non Bumi.

I’m now in Vista Komanwel Bukit Jalil, very close to IMU(International Medical University). Every morning i bumped into nice amoi wearing doctor suit going to class. NH, wanna visit Vista Komanwel? hehe.

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NH, can you define what it means by ‘quality’? how you can distinguish that UiTM is low in quality?

for me, if you got a big basket of apples, you’ve a high probability of having more rotten apples than a small basket..

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Dont’ be melenting la…. this is just suggestion from some one that have huge experience and he know what this all about. Basically it’s not pengkhianatan but to improve our student “MELAYU” to be not always “melayu”. Just 10% combine foreigners+non bumi…. just tiny… ok what.

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Oh Sh*t!! I LOVE THIS STUFF YOU WRITE!!

And ppl have to STOP SAYING UITMis for the MALAYs. Dude and dudettes, UITM is for the BUMIPUTRAS which includes BIDAYUH, KADAZAN, IBAN, bla bla. So, i don’t understand why the Malays are making so much noise..like, you rights, are not the only one at stake.

Neither do I know HOW MUCH MORE RETARD MALAYSIANS CAN BE.

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aku cuma terpikir, macam mana kalau nanti ada idea kolej melayu nak diserapkan dengan 10% pelajar bukan melayu.

aku bukan against the idea tapi cuba nak tengok dari sudut yang lain jugak.

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oh, btw, i’m so gonna put a link of your page to my blog!

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I am sad to see the response to Khalid’s suggestion; did he just kill someone?

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Wow NH… Terasa siot ko tulis entri ni sebab aku juga graduan UiTM. Tapi ada benarnya bila kita hanya bergaul dlm komuniti sendiri, potensi untuk berkembang sangat lembab.

tu pasal aku tak rapat dgn student UiTM (except girls). lps kelas aku chow pergi buat apa yang aku biasa buat. besarkan networking & belajar ilmu hidup. tak mahu terpengaruh dengan mentaliti kuno orang kita…

tp aku tak boleh nafikan yang aku hutang jasa dgn UiTM sebab apa yang aku dah jadi sekarang. but life must be go on…

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Just listened to the news at 8pm on TV3. I saw the students marched to protest. What’s even more annoying is the report says that the students are feeling threaten because the Malays have rights bla bla… See what I mean?? The MALAYS again??!! STOP BEING RACIST!! I saw some MPP representatives trying to act HERO on national TV, but HECK, you call yourself the student body representatives??!! So, you’re suppose to be the SMARTER ones rite? Oh wait - you’re STILL a retard.

Once again F***heads, UITM is for the BUMIs NOT for the MALAYS Private Limited. Ergh…soooo tired wan~

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hmm…one of the many reason i went to IPTS. worth the unbearable loan than to being as stuck-up as these kind of malays. hahah.

too bad, all my relatives seem to have this mentality. they even gave me that “you’re traitor” look because i mentioned i’m not interested in government sector. a friend from IPTA even bluntly said people go to IPTS so they can buy their own degree. i rather not fit in with my kind if they’re like these.

my take, 10% je? sikit sgt tu. increase the percentage, ‘melayu’ kan pantang dicabar, apsal plak nak gelabah2 nih? hahaha

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I’m supposedly a ‘Malay’ -tho my birth cert does not say so (Sabah Bumiputra), but I feel marginised in a Malay dominated places. I look ‘chinese’. Its always about, my outfit, way i speak, bla bla bla..nothing I do is ever right. I’m more comfortable being in a non-malay dominated places since they look beyond the skin colour. We can talk of anything we want, find out about each other’s cultures, understand what we are not clear of each other instead of phasing out a person because of the skin colour?

The way I see it, Malaysians should stop talking of races, ethnics etc…just be Malaysians. Lift the Malay supremacy its becoming obsolete….UiTM for Bumi’s? they want to be left behind and be ‘jaguh kampung’ leave them be. Let the rest of us rise among the real champions.

BTW NH, I love your blog..just came across it today..will follow it..

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Being a graduate from Uitm myself and then works for multinational firm for more than 5 years, I would like to say that you have some valid points.

Made Uitm solely for Malay/Bumi, does not help their graduate to become more competitive and produce a highest quality graduate that we can expect.

However, to said that Uitm has the lowest quality/standard in Malaysia is totally understated.

In order to help the poor, Uitm should be open to mid-low group of Malaysian regardless of races.

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I am also a UiTM graduate, like cik simpankira, and a few others naming UiTM as their alma matter.

I do agree with the point that, “orang Melayu cepat melatah”. Baru buat cadangan, dah gegak-gempita seantero UiTM. Come on, there’s nothing wrong with a lil’ healthy competition. UiTM and controversies. *Sigh*. In all honesty, I believe UiTM and its management is a puppet for the “Powers That Be”. And the student councils are all suck-ups. The reason why I will never be involved in politics.

However, I’m not going to agree for the sake of agreeing. Being one of ‘the accused’, I decided not to take things personally when you said UiTM students are of low quality. Well, simply because I am not one of them. Neither are my classmates, or even most of my UiTM friends. I don’t think it ever helps to generalise/label students like that, even with disclaimers (some are ok, etc etc). Because frankly, low quality graduates are low quality graduates, no matter which institute you are from. I know this because I am also an employer, and educational stigma makes you biased and at some point, disrespectful. No offense intended.

I also think it is no longer relevant to associate bad English with UiTM students. I used to underestimate UiTM too, before becoming a student there. I can safely say 80% of UiTM students nowadays speak fair to good English, if not as excellent as yourself. Times have changed, people evolve (into being better people, hopefully). Again, bad English can be found everywhere, every institute, not exclusively in UiTM.

Then again, the thing that matters most is not what degree you have, or where you obtained it from; but what you DO with the degree itself.

Wallahu’alam. Just my two cents.

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Wow.. totally an eye opening thought

Its true at certain points. Maybe the last point is not that strong. Cool blog man..

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simple. aku tak kesah. aku rasa patut jugak diorang wat. Tapi biasalah, mesti ada yang tak suker..

Yang aku pasti, bende ni disensasikan oleh pihak ‘itu’, Saje je nak bagi calar imej je tu. Macamla tak tau..ni salah satu cara nk elakkan kes minyak, kes saiful, kes alantuya diingat semula oleh kiter..

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You’re a good man. There should be a level playing field for everyone.

This is a country and we are Malaysians. Not Indian, Not Malay, Not Chinese but MAlaysians!!
Every individual is in charge of his/her future and should work hard for it. Don’t let those in need suffer for out ignorance.

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Hi all,

I don’t know much about UiTM, but when it was ITM back in 1990’s, the qualification required to enter Diploma program was equivalent to requirement to enter Degree program in UTM. And, subjects were mainly thaught in English. For Engineering programs, we’re more of demand compared to UTM and USM. That was what ITM claimed during that time.

Then, they change it and everything now is a different story, and a bit bitter at it.

A big correction has to be made to this discussion. UiTM is for Bumis, not Malays. During my time, there’s about 20-30% Sabahans and Sarawakians, each with more than 10% allocation. Some of them are from Chinese decendants.

Open UiTM for non-Bumis… This idea came out during Mahathir’s time. The government suggested it and seemed wholly supported by everybody except the opposition parties. In fact, certain programs had already did that, like PPP. So, what the fuss?

…and Foreigners. This was from Khalid Ibrahim. I worked in Jiddah, Saudi Arabia and found it quite difficult to understand why people at this end were acting like they were, well, different. We have around dozens of nationalities here.

It took sometime for me to adapt to these different cultures. And those sometime, were the time of low productivity… wasted.

Imagine; if I were exposed to different cultures, different set of way of thinking, different norms and values, etc. at earlier stage of my life, I might be able to cut short the adaptating period, thus increasing my productivity.

Period.

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I wrote about this in my blog, a reader asks:

Danesh said…
Sorry, I don’t mean to be rude.

I’m Hindu, chinese educated and studied in a sekolah kebangsaan during secondary. My best friends are from all races.I speak Tamil, Mandarin, Cantonese, English, Bahasa Melayu.

My sis’s name is Azlina Manoharan. Yes.

Dude, I don’t get you. Stir the water? So I’m not Malaysian? I don’t have the right to equality? I can’t even question that?

So what does being a citizen of a country mean?

What so different between you and me?

and i Answered:

Afif Hamzah said…
Dear Danesh,

I appreciate the gesture, thank you.

I am malay, and my circle of friends are of the same of yours, consisting every major races in Malaysia. Despite our differences, I have befriended them since childhood. How do sustain such friendship for such long? Tolerance, which can be plainly prescribed as the ‘give and take’ attitude is the general rule of every relationship, the neighbourlyhood principles or attitude. It’s simple. if you love you friend, you would tolerate in sustaining peace and harmony in your friendship.

Equality is prescribed in our Federal Constitution but allow me to point it out – that it is not without restrictions such as our freedom of speech. The constitution is the single most important document that has governed us, as a peaceful secular country. Such peace has managed been sustained for more 50 years since Merdeka, with that we have to applaud ourselves. The constitution was drafted carefully by the British during those days, and I have to congratulate them to take into account every aspect crucial for a secular country to survive and sustain peace and democracy.

One of those is the bumiputera rights or privileges. Even then, the British has recognized it as a sensitive issue amongst the people of Tanah Melayu and I am referring the time of the Tanah Melayu mighty opposition of the Malay Union. Same as the constitution granted the parliament to impose subversive laws and prevention detention laws or better known as the Internal Security Act (ISA) to combat communism, because when the Constitution was drafted then, we were living in the shroud of communism.

Let’s set aside legalities shall we, and look on what is the right thing to do instead of what can be done.

So here I ask you, if you love being Malaysian, appreciating such various races living in peace and harmony as much as you love your friendship regardless of races, would you ever take the risk for discussing sensitive issues with them? I for one would not do so. Appreciating what we have, I’m sure we would not do such a thing. “Give and Take” has ever been the only reason why we have sustained as one entity.

To sustain this beautiful peace amongst us, I believe we should retract and appreciate on how we have managed to sustain such peace for more than 50 years. If it need be, to not to question such issues that might stir our ‘neighbour’ then why not? We have moved so far since then, reach great heights and achievement. Despite, bumiputera privileges, other races have always manage to stay competitive with us. But then, it is in race point of view, not nation’s point of view. I shouldn’t go into that context to deeply.

What I think, that the peace has sustained long enough that we have loose ourselves, and forget the very essence that has made us Malaysians for so long. I think we should not take for granted on such peace and unite for one common goal instead of striving for our own race.

Anyway, thank you. It is very Malaysian of you to point out your views ethically and I assure you, I have no racial reasons when I drafted my post. Let us move forward as a Malaysian.

August 17, 2008 6:16 PM

Think about it

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Noktah Hitam,

I applaud your points they are persuasive indeed. However I choose to stand my ground.
On the contrary to what you have ruled out, we are living in peace. Complaints does not deem our Country to be in a state of emergency (Though please accept the fact that since the 1960’s since YDPA has declared our Nation to be in state of emergency, YDPA has never revoked such declaration and we are, still living in a state of emergency)

Khir Toyo, being a bumiputera is perfectly valid in accordance in Article 160 of the Federal Constitution, which defines the meaning of “malay” and “bumiputera” as far as the law is concern.

Other nations, have also granted extra privileges to their natives – how sure are you other nations don’t have such provisions in their constitution or parliament acts. Their freedom of speech is overrated as Americans boast with their statute of Liberty - there’s a saying there is freedom before the speech and no freedom after the speech, we have ISA, they have a place called guantanamobay (Pardon my spelling here). It is as much as overrated as their claims of equality of persons. That is what happened with globalization, they control the major Medias thus shrouding our minds with what they want us to think.

What I am pointing out, is for us to keep focused on what matters most, racial unity. Albeit bumiputera privileges, other races has always manage to keep very competitive and could it be, our privileges as bumiputera has grant us complacent people? If the answer to that question being true as it is normally opinionated, by far what ever that the non-bumi’s are complaining they are not having, is the source of their greatest strength?

You put a malay in London for an example, they would do wonders to survive and strive above the pack of races but otherwise if you put the same person surrounded or powered by the advantages of privileges. People want to instill competitiveness by opening up UiTM to non-bumi’s? I call it cliché.

The key point here is tolerance. Neighbourhoodly rules or principles, it’s simple, if you love your neighbour or friend – you would not do or say anything that might hurt their feelings. Some context you find as conversable and to them might be taboo.

“Acquiring peace is easy, but to maintain it, is hard.”

Precisely, but not quite exactly. The battle to oppose Malayan Union has partly been won, impliedly the true spirit of the oppose was partly lost . In the end, everyone was granted citizenship of the Federation of Malaysia. That was the first sacrifice done by the State leaders in other words their give and their take for the betterment of the country. They gave up ruling the state inherently and choose to abide by the rules of democracy and the Laws of England instead of Syaria’ah Laws. I think we should seek within ourselves, the inner strength to be one, tolerant, secular country to tolerate, to be sensitive, is mindful as neighbours of the same states, as Malaysian.

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Simple. The Malays are scared to death they will be outclassed by the 10% minority in the university.

Typical Malays, they can never accept challenges. All they want is to live happily ever after, without doing anything, and very happy of their current achievement, not sure whether pushing themselves forward is actually a good thing.

I was a student of UiTM, and honestly, the Malays are going nowhere near success. The only thing that makes sure of Malays’ success is that this country is owned and run by Malays, the 60% of 27 million heads in Malaysia.

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ar…
not fair la..
x sumer uitm students x de quality
ambil kire quantity juga ler
uitm students terlalu ramai
setiap negeri ade cawangan uitm
bagusnyer uitm ni memberi peluang kpd org bumiputera utk masuk U, even x pandai mana pun, mmg motif utama nk beri peluang kpd org2 bumi
kalo org non bumi masuk sbnyk 10 percent, mana org bumi yg 10 percent tu nak letak plak??
sy x setuju uitm diberi masuk non bumi
not trying to be racist k
tp it is the only one left for my race…
nothing else left for my future generation except the education in uitm that had been provide
there are still many other U’s that can produce excellent graduate of bumis.
dont judge us and forced us to changed dramatically
we will change
give us some times…
malay r quite slow…
but when the time all malay rise, i hope there will be still a place where can bumis voice their opinion.
it is juz my opinion
no offence k

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beb, Federal Constitution was drafted in 80’s? it shows how intelligence you are. grad mana ni beb?
buat malu je..

stop the crap!

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Ni semua politik saja. Budak2 uitm jd mangsa. Ibrahim abu shah tu orang kuat UMNO, yang bg CADANGAN plak orang PKR..mesti la nk tunjuk sapa plg gah. But IAB put his brain at his dick (dickhead). apa punya VC. MPP uitm pun sengal x pk panjang melulu ikut buat protes. skang employr nk boikot. fairplay.

khalid juz give the proposal, and he is not in power to amend the constitution about UiTM status. Why ibrahim abu shah the vc n his monkey demo student make such fuss???Buat donno sudah. khalid brahim is right about this and uitm vc turn this matter to political issue.

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UiTM x de dalam Times Higher Education Supplement chart.
top 500 pon xde…
better open the door for non-bumi’s..
or bumis should change their culture of studies…

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