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Good Company Makes Time Fly

Like the usual, Friday night is about taking your time off the real world. It was a last minute thing, I managed to get a hold of Bongkersz and Aeropama for a teh tarik session.

I know you might think this is another geek hangouts, oh my, how so wrong of you. Our conversation was deep, cynical and anything for the betterment of the nation. The highly debatable topic was English as medium for Science and Math. Ok, you can say it’s rather geeky.

I’m not going to explore the details here, I may misquote what they said. So let’s just wait for them to publish (if any).

We got together half past 10pm. Talked and talked, teh tarik satu, talked again, it was endless. I flipped my watch and saw, 4am! Good lord, time sure flies these days.

Of course if it was my MCKK friends, 6 hours of teh tarik is too routine, easily achievable. Among the 3 of us, we’re just acquainted, but we do make a great company. Short of one another will definitely shy topics away.

My stand, English should be abolished from the education system. English is only for English subject. I will write this in greater depth. For now, let’s laze around and enjoy the weekend   :evil:

ps: Badminton night! Horray! Off to rugby practise first.

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kidd wrote on
November 15, 2008 at 5:19 pm

i second the notion!

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saffa wrote on
November 15, 2008 at 7:22 pm

Cant wait for the next post! I have my own opinion about it too :wink:

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sootsprite wrote on
November 15, 2008 at 7:39 pm

uhh i miss hanging out for teh tarik late at nite

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abdusfauzi wrote on
November 15, 2008 at 8:09 pm

hanging around in a lab also fun :roll: lame.
arrgh! exams!

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shandye wrote on
November 15, 2008 at 9:19 pm

i dunno. im kinda on the fence about the whole english for science and math thing, because i see a pros and cons about it.

its a great effort from the educational ministry to let english be the teaching and learning language for both science and math but then again i do agree that english is supposed to be just another language subject.

i know it supposed to be ‘up-to-the-standard’ and ‘more-globally-accepted’ to have english as the t&l language for those two subjects but is bahasa malaysia OUR national language. thus, isn’t it more proper to teach those two subjects in bahasa malaysia? right?

im not trying to provoke any sentiment whatsoever, i am just referring to our federal constitution.

however, looking at another perspective, i do admit teaching s&m in english do have its own benefits in the long run. look at the recent upsr statistics that shows great improvements and the response given by those school kids that think learning s&m in english do have a dual-effect upon them; be able to learn sm& and improve their english a the same time.

i have an 11 year-old sister and she also claims that its kinda helping her english a lot since three of her subjects (s,m and e) are in english. but then again when asked which language she prefers, she told me that if those two subjects are taught in bahasa malaysia, it would be better as (perhaps) she understands it better.

i dunno.

mebbe if asked the same question to other races the answer will be different.

huhu…

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NoktahHitam replied on
November 15, 2008 at 9:27 pm

I did write “I will write in great detail”. Tak sabar-sabar ek about that topic? Hehe

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ImamKhalid replied on
November 16, 2008 at 2:41 pm

I don’t believe in that particular statistics at all. Both the results and the graph were in their hand. They can do what ever they wanted to… :neutral:

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|1f34|-|1r3 wrote on
November 15, 2008 at 9:25 pm

sorry la beb takleh nak join..kije memanggil2 + aku datang kije naik keta sbb ujan lebat…kalau ko pickup aku smalam or rela bayar RM10 utk parking aku..confirm aku dh terpacak kt sana..kenapa mesti jumaat malam sabtu? tak bleh ker sabtu malam ahad di mata aku sudah bebas dr jadi hamba abdi ? :twisted:

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NoktahHitam replied on
November 15, 2008 at 9:28 pm

malam sabtu Aeropama and Bongkersz berjiwang jiwangan. Aku usually badminton or futsal

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ImamKhalid wrote on
November 16, 2008 at 9:38 am

Can’t wait to see your abolishing-English post. Hurry up, I’m expecting same opinion with me! :up:

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oDiN wrote on
November 17, 2008 at 3:09 am

My sis amek spm this year ..
bleyh plak aku sound dier
” ko ada belajar penghabluran x dalam kimia ? ”

” haah ? hablur ? ape tuh ? ”

then mak aku sound

” Crystallization la .. ”

kalo ajar bahasa Inggeris .. x paham lak bahasa melayu .. sigh ..

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asx wrote on
November 17, 2008 at 5:07 am

yah . bahasa melayu untuk semua =).

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bongkersz wrote on
November 17, 2008 at 3:02 pm

I am going to write a post on the topic we discussed :) I am taking the completely opposite side. :arrow:

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NoktahHitam replied on
November 17, 2008 at 3:57 pm

It’s not the side you truly want to be in.

Persuasive writing is hard, if you don’t really believe in what you’re writing.

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bongkersz replied on
November 17, 2008 at 4:04 pm

I need to train myself, may be useful in the nearest future. Yes, persuasive writing is hard when you don’t really believe in what you’re writing. If you can do it, definitely F easier to write what you believe in hehe.

I am writing based on only one point - stick with policy when there’s no clear right and wrong and execute necessary improvements to correct the flaws.

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callister wrote on
November 17, 2008 at 7:18 pm

aku ada tanya kwn2 aku yang dah jadi cikgu, derang kata memg agak susah untuk mengajar budak2 yang kureng pehamaman bhs inggeris ni.. :roll: diaorang kalo xpahm pun, wat2 paham..
cikgu mesti kena tabah, kalo x nanti objektif pembelajaran xsampai.. :wink:

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Najib Hassan wrote on
November 20, 2008 at 6:16 pm

errr…kalau la kat city besor tu rasanya takde byk masalah utk mengajar bahasa mat salleh dalam pembelajaran tapi kalau city yang terasing / kena naik perahu baru sampai kat skola tu/ fuhh amatlah susah untuk mengajar bahasa mat salleh sebab diorang jarang sekali terdedah dengan env bahasa mat salleh ni… tapi tak dinafikan bahasa mat salleh tu adalah satu kelebihan in life gak…

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